It seems I am not the form but watching the form.
The form isn't something outside of such a thought of watching the form.
The form is …….. the formless moment of being …….getting conceptualized…
….as thought.
Apparently forming.
The simultaneous non-activity and actioning….
.. passive awareness and simultaneously actively forming.
An imaginary thought-loop.
An imagined position from which thought, language, description can arise.
How does passive watching become an active watcher (if that is what is happening)
and how does identification with the images come about?
A kind of convolution - a loop that tries to turn back on itself………. to have itself.
An objectification that is largely unconscious and nonverbal……
… that "runs throughout the human system"… …
….. until it is seen for what it is.
Seeing it for what it is……. …. it loses ……its hold.
Identification depends on "ignore-ance."
There is an investing in "ignore-ance" ……….in order to have a personal existence……
… and to exist as a collective……. as an interacting group of persons.
Thus, pretending to claim a sense of existing………. that can be maintained and enhanced…
….. for me, and a group of inter-alia interacting…me(s).
This objectification and investments/identification in this objectification …
…..runs through the human system of thought, memory, society...
.. and emotional reactions and relationships of all sorts.
Until it loses any hold on "seeing,"…………loses any stake in "being."
Questions, you answer them if you can; I give up for now.
It doesn't matter what someone else says about this.
That's irrelevant.
It is only "catching yourself in the act"…….. that matters.
Seeing the identification for what it is……… at the moment that it tries to happen.
Seeing this as it happens………… is to automatically not be caught in it, or by it.
If I listen to what someone else says the answer is……
…. then I've already accepted the identification …
…..as a someone who can get an answer from someone else.
J Krishnamurti talked about it all the time, the watching without a watcher.
Since it is a watching it is not an it nor an I, it is an action without (beyond, outside) activity, a passive action, a watching any given activity.
The watched then, the activity, what is that?
Image.
Without a mirror I cannot see myself, and when I look at myself in a mirror...
..
I am not looking at myself, only at an image.
So there is deciding that "this is an image."
Ergo a sense of what is an image and what is not an image.
Where is this distinction…… which is a thought of such a distinction……anchored?
The image is coming from that anchorage is it not…
…and that anchorage is itself forming itself as an image……
… from and of that .........which is neither form nor formless.
I, identify with the image and voila, damage done. I have become the image...
...
and that image-life is all there is to life and death.
But what is it an image of?
A image is not a image of something and it is also not an image of nothing.
It's simply an image, a thing is an image, phenomena are images.
The I that identifies with the image? What is that I?
An imaginary thought-loop.
An imagined position from which thought, language, description can arise.
There is no experiencing how so nothing to report;
we ought to only speak from experience imo and I have nothing
coming in on this one.
The reporting of an experience …….is the experience of a reporting.
And all reports……of ……all experiences ………are fictions.
Akin a display of what such experiences would be like....
...
what reporting of such experiences would be like …
…if ever such could actually take place.
Thus this very dialogue……a nuance of the same display of ……
…as-if ness.
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