27th May 2003

Hiya K.

Few cents in between for your consideration..........

In the South Asian history, the Bhagavad-Gita myth is the crucial dividing line that took a turning point from the mostly nondual
Upanishads to the zealous, dualistic, highly popular devotional theistic sects.

The evolution of the organized religions is not always in linear fashion but sometimes it is a case of reversal of fortunes. From the > fortune of the highly advanced nondual (non)thinking mind to the more primitive, dualistic manipulation of evolution. No doubt nonduality of the Upanishads were highly advanced for that time...even advanced for our age that most of the West (and the Middle-East where the organized forms of the semitic monethistic dualism originated) still has no concept of what nonduality is.

The same dude with the flute, muttered to Arjun...

Among thousands, maybe in one, I light a spark of the question, .........is this all to Life?

Among such thousands, maybe in one, I energize the spark,.... not to be engulfed by the routine of living.

Among such thousands, maybe in one, I actualize the spark into a seeking.

Among such thousand seekers, maybe in one, does seeking reach Bhakti.

Among such thousand Bhaktas, maybe in one, the Bhakti reaches the intoxication of fana.

Among, such thousand fana-toxicated dervishes, maybe in one, I apperceive myself.

(Paraphrased a bit, as Krishna did not have the Net to deal with, in his times)

Seems Las Vegas gives better odds for becoming a millionare overnight.

Seeing from that gestalt, isn't theistic Bhakti existing side-by-side with non-duality (both being concepts anyway)..... appropriate?

Perhaps at this stage of evolution, most people in the world have the need to worship and need
to have a relationship with a personal god. This "normal" paranoid mind of "me" and "You" still have some mileage left.

There was the Door,

To which I found no Key

Thee was the Veil,

through which I might not see;

Some little talk awhile of Me and Thee

There was........

and then no more Thee and Me.

Krisha tells Arjuna to fight. When we look at Krishna as the voice of totality, the evolution, how we are supposed to be manipulated in a tribal warfare, it's no secret that Krisha is also whispering the same inspiring wisdom (???) to the ears of human apes on the other side...so they can kill each other. Have we really advanced that far from the days of tribal apes fighthing over territory and power?

As always, all myths, all stories, all yarns, all prattlings are a means of a pointing.

The essence of this dialogue between Krishna and Arjun, is actually not in the additions, alterations, amendments, attachments, which crept in over time, depending on what suited the figure of authority to establish and perpetuate their hold on the masses (also appropriate).

The essence lies in the few sentences, which rarely appear to be placed in the forefront in any attempt to explain the Gita.

These are.......


na hi kascit ksanam api
jatu tisthaty akarma-krt
karyate hy avasah karma
sarvah prakrti-jair gunaih

Everyone is forced to act helplessly according to the qualities he has acquired from the modes of material nature; therefore no one can refrain from doing something, not even for a moment



buddhir jnanam asammohah
ksama satyam damah samah
sukham duhkham bhavo 'bhavo
bhayam cabhayam eva ca

ahimsa samata tustis
tapo danam yaso 'yasah
bhavanti bhava bhutanam
matta eva prthag-vidhah

Intelligence, knowledge, freedom from doubt and delusion, forgiveness, truthfulness, control of the senses, control of the mind, happiness and distress, birth, death, fear, fearlessness, non-violence, equanimity, satisfaction, austerity, charity, fame and infamy -- all these various qualities of living beings are created by Me alone.

The different qualities of living entities, be they "good" or "bad", are all created by " "

(place inbetween the " ", ........the term Krishna, Allah, Buddha, Christ, Christ's Dad, Source, Bozo the Clown, Noumenon, Consciousness, Void, etc etc, .......any will do, for all terms, are only terms.)


tasmat tvam uttistha yaso labhasva
jitva satrun bhunksva rajyam samrddham
mayaivaite nihatah purvam eva
nimitta-matram bhava savya-sacin

Therefore get up. Prepare to fight and win glory. Conquer your enemies and enjoy a flourishing kingdom. They are already put to death by My arrangement, and you, O Savyasaci, can be but an instrument in the fight.

Savya-sacin refers to one who can shoot arrows very expertly in the field; thus Arjuna is addressed as an expert warrior capable of delivering arrows to kill his enemies. "Just become an instrument": nimitta-matram. This word is also very significant. The whole world is moving according to the plan of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and being actualized through the billions and billions of "instruments".

dronam ca bhismam cajayadratham ca
karnam tathanyan api yodha-viran
maya hatams tvam jahi ma vyathistha
yudhyasva jetasi rane sapatnan

Drona, Bhisma, Jayadratha, Karna and the other great warriors have already been destroyed by Me. Therefore, kill them and do not be disturbed. Simply fight, and you will vanquish your enemies in battle.


What is to happen, has already happened.

Manifested objects, whether labeled "Arjun", or "Dubya Bush" or "Karta" or "Saddaam", are the "nimittas", instruments through which the enfolding of divinity seems to occur in time, but which has already happened.

The Total Picture, already IS.


Other animals have no such conflict. A lion eats a man and that's the end of it.

Yes, at the Tanzanian Game Reserve in Serrengeti, I noticed on the gate,... written " In Serengetti, there is neither malice, nor remorse."

The human predator, after killing his victim in
battlefield, will sit the wife and the child of his victim on his lap and cry with them over the memory of the slain. Such is the fate of morally conflicted ape who cannot give up the taste of blood and at the same time, have to invent "divine" myths to justify his
irrational tendencies.

Consequence of the architecture, which is the constant conceptualizing of the sentiencing of the moment.

Nonduality takes no position. Not even the position that "we have no position." Human apes kill others mainly because they identify with the personal, tribal and the personal/tribal god. Are they really choosing or simply being manipulated by the ancient programs running in the mind, played like puppets? Once you're awake you simply watch others kill each other in a dream-like world where they as act if they're hypnotized, not knowing who they are.

The pathos and ethos of the last night sleep-dream.

However while dreaming, no problem in girding up your loins and jumping into the fray, if you are so moved.

Cold sweat, joyous laughter, or wet dreams, could be the consequences of that girding up.

Some idle cents, .......if they don't sit well, caress the del key.

Rub-a-bub-dub sings the G-Spot.





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